We will find less expensive, age appropriate activities for him in our area. But.. it was lego stuff (not to mention drag coding to make the thing go.. that kinda defeats the purpose). We want all schools to aspire to, achieve, and remain committed to a biblically-based philosophy of education, standards that are measurable, and flourishing-related criteria. or listen here: http://collegepreppodcast.com/2015/01/increasing-act-scores-learning-disabilities-math-best-summer-camps/ Megan. You are probably right a lot of your peers got letters. Theres no way I could go without one. I was wondering if I should try to attend or if it's even worth my time. the applications are due sometime in april, and you just have to outline your financial situation. Megan. We would love for him to attend but wonder if it would be better for him to wait until he is older. It says a faculty member at my school nominated me, but Im not so sure Ive spoken to him once, so how would he know that I am planning on going into the military? Im glad you are thinking about summer plans already. What are some other programs besides this that cost less? Great tip on networking! Also she said that usually if I do not receive anything then I was supposed to call them anyway. Thank you everyone who has shared. I also remember a field trip to the mallgreat waste of money. There will be plenty of opportunities down the road. Put succinctly, Envision EMI is very slick, very clever company with marginal ethics that has found a niche in capitalizing and exploiting on the close and trusting relationship between parents, students, and teachers. I called them to verify this, and you can see on their website a section for nominate someone. As long as the child is the right age, a parent can nominate them for the camp/program. (starts at about 22:20 minutes) Listen on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-college-prep-podcast/id909682404?mt=2) to episode 27 or listen here: http://collegepreppodcast.com/2015/01/increasing-act-scores-learning-disabilities-math-best-summer-camps/ Why dont you look for some weekend workshops closer to home? Youth Leadership Consortium - Scam? Youth Leadership Institute - Use Your Voice Youth Voice Changes Communities I am a. NYLF spends more on marketing and promotion than most of the university-based programs which is why you hear more about it. I think the NYLF programs offer interesting opportunities. But this seems like a great program that I could definitely benefit from. Im in 6th grade and I just started middle school. This spring tens of thousands of high school students will receive news that they have been nominated to attend a "highly selective" or "exclusive" one-week summer program. 2022 YLS presentation at the NCCEP/GEAR UP Annual Conference in Washington, DC. A parent wants to help their child with their future career. Im glad the program is legit, and Im glad its being held where we can drive in couple hours and drop her off. Still, the BBB rating doesnt seem to reflect the user comments on the site (https://www.bbb.org/washington-dc-eastern-pa/business-reviews/lecture-and-seminar-bureaus/envision-emi-in-washington-dc-7001305/reviews-and-complaints). Its all about money. Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled. I keep reading about the marketing scam and the cost. I have been reading on the programs to see other peoples views on it and if it s really worth breaking the bank. That is a lot of money. Is this program actually legitimate? Is there worth? Two thousand dollars is a lot of money, but its a lot less than even a single year at our local community college. From how it looks, my mother was and possibly is still concerned that this is a scam. Fergusons advice about grades and AP classes in this context is to do the best that you can do in the environment that you are in. Additionally, colleges want to see that an applicant is involved in their school, involved in their community and taking leadership roles. This is a nice program, but it isnt going to set you apart more than any other summer program / camp. They can be expensive. Do you think it is worth the investment for an 11 yr old to go to a program like this? We went to Stanford. . Ive tried googling them and nothing comes up and their website is blocked by my school. Both workshops were mainly presented by Curtis Ferguson II, Associate Director from USC Admissions. In retrospect, I think I gained maybe 10%-20% benefit from this experience. Colleges like to see students develop their interests. As I said in the article, these programs are NOT scams. You will find other summer options out there. I can see that the questions asked by some of the other parents to comment here are exactly the same ones my husband and I asked ourselves when our son, a high school sophomore, got an invitation for the NYLF Security seminar. As I understood it does not worth that money. Mark. Do a lot of research before making any decisions. I am a middle school student and got nominated to go to this program. I received a letter for medicine in the mail today. Find the show on iTunes (https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/the-college-prep-podcast/id909682404?mt=2) to episode 27 But finding something like this for someone who hasnt even gotten into middle school yet is hard. Megan. or listen here: http://collegepreppodcast.com/2015/01/increasing-act-scores-learning-disabilities-math-best-summer-camps/ Sure, @justwanttopass its https://ylc.hsfts.net/yls-application Should I consider it? I was so excited for the robotics bit! Best wishes for success in your degree program. I just dont want families to feel like it is the only option. Probably not. I had the opporutunity to meet many great leaders as well as interact with my peers. Sincerely, Amy Minzola. My name is Michael, Im a sophomore, and I was wondering if youre sure the letters are not a scam. This is why I have a difficult time advising families on the NYLF programs some students have an amazing experience while others find it a waste of time. I just got my acceptance to the YLS. My stepdaughter has often been excluded from many advanced opportunities due to the fact that we are not part of the inner circle of elites in our community. Yeah, that's pretty close to what I had figured. Today, Youth Leadership Consortium (YLC) Staff is prepping for the first Young Leaders Summit (YLS)! Between the very high tuition and very over the top letter (repeating how prestigious it is in every paragraph), its a hard pass. it's legitimately a program, but it's also a profit making enterprise, extremely expensive and not worth your while. Its $2,500 and he couldnt really answer some good questions such as.. what will they be doing during down time? The NYLF programs are fun and enriching. There were 5 guest speakers ranging from professors at Berkeley to executives at big companies, such as google. What is the difference between the medicine program and the advanced medicine and health care program? If so, could you give some suggestions of other programs you feel are worth investigating? I received the invitation to attend NYLF: Pathway to to STEM for my son Isaac. HomeNCCEP StaffCareer & College ClubsCapacity-Building WorkshopStudy LabYouth LeadershipInstitutes About GEAR UPTake ActionNews, NCCEP1331 H ST NWSuite #900Washington, DC 20005, National Council for Community and Education Partnerships (NCCEP), STEP 3: Submit Payment for Conference Registration on Behalf of Students, National Council for Community and Education Partnerships. I just received my letter for NYLF:medicine and Im really confused i wanna go but it doesnt seem worth it especially since i have to take time off work to go (11th grader Im a life guard/ swim teacher in the summer) i just really dont know what to do and Id like som advice. You might also find more camp programs that are directed towards nursing and fit your budget. I agree; that does sound strange. Not really. Which in my mind makes it a scam. Thank you so much. However, these programs are indeed expensive. Shannon. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. I have 4 kids and dont want to fall into a trap of doing things to look good on a college app. Im also worried about spending all of this money only to change my mind about what I want to do later. In order to calculate an accurate estimate to how much money a certain student needs for college, there is a basic equation, which is COA (Cost of Attendance) EFC (Expected Family Contribution)= Financial Need (the number you need to pay for college). When the people called me it was much more of a sales pitch than anything else. This summer she is participating in a Girl Scout Destination program where she can study at the Teton Science Center and camp in Yellowstone (about $750 including travel.) Megan. You can attain either through scholarships or grants, both of which do not require you to pay back. Required fields are marked *. Applications for many programs are due in the next couple months. Do not waste your money. Yes. How do you feel NYLF Stem program compares with Duke Tip? This student is in self-contained special education classes. The students that have attended all had positive things to say regarding the events. How can we provide that information to a young person that might be interested in entering the field someday? The other ones have already been decided against, and now my family is trying to determine if we should put any value in this one. I have signed my son up to go to one this Summer. I have a detailed discussion of a question very similar to yours on this weeks College Prep Podcast. However, you dont mention some of the other key problems with NYLF, so I wanted to note them here. She is already attending a local STEM camp and she has a full scholarship paid by her school. Thanks Thoughts? They didnt realize there are hundreds of other programs, many less expensive, that they could have considered. The trouble is, Im 31 years old! I have an 8 year old and I would want to know a lot more about how they structure the program before I would send him. Or volunteering at the hospital. ANY comments about experiences with the Law program will be more than greatly appreciated. Jessica, We just received the same packet and on one of the forms I says flight not included. Maybe a good start for most people would be to get in contact with families on this list and ask them personally about their experience. My daughter who is only 8 years old is a HUGE dreaming of being in the fields of science. There are a few peculiar things about it, so I am curious if anyone here knows if it's legit or not. I can say I was extremely excited for him and his recognition. Thank you! Wishing you the best! Yeah, that's pretty close to what I had figured. Contact Information 1919 Gallows Rd Ste 700 Vienna, VA 22182-4007 Get Directions Visit Website Email this Business (703) 214-0973 Want a quote from this business? I have several friends applying, and we are all trying to get in the same week. I got nominated, but I am unsure how they got my name, I havent done any testings listed above, nor do I know how they discovered my want for law school, Megan, I got nominated to go to nylf and my mom thought that it would be an amazing experience for me to go. (YLS), a free program for low-income high school juniors in which the students go to the University of Chicago on a four-day retreat to learn about college. I wouldnt spend that type of money on this type of program for him. Are we stuck and not able to cancel? Jackie, The program will probably have the word leadership in its name, and the invitation to apply will most . He is really wanting to go but I want to make sure this is truly worth the money. I just wondered if you had any thoughts now that your son has attended. Sylvia, they probably got your name when you took the PSAT, PLAN, SAT, or ACT. Dont go UNLESS you can guarantee this programs credibility. You can tell they are spending a lot of money on marketing. Junior Aline Tran from Burbank High School personally recommends. My daughter also received a letter that she was nominated to participate in the NYLF Explore STEM She was very excited that someone at her school (I think) nominated her for the program. Speaking as a parent myself, I believe that your folks simply want to ensure you have the best opportunities they can secure for you- even if that means they have to make financial sacrifices to do it. We were terribly disappointed in the staff, content of material taught, supervision, quality of kids and quality of teachers. As the parent of two kids (12 & 17), I would NOT recommend sending your third grader on this experience. The 2023 YLS will take place July 16-19, 2023, as part of the NCCEP/GEAR UP Annual Conference in San Francisco, California.. Not offered now. At that age, I would look for other enrichment opportunities in your community. But the camp itself is not special so this cheapens the nomination process and exposes it for what it is: a marketing ploy to separate parents from their money. Most of the students in my orbit praise the National Young Leaders Conference Program (NYLC) and its affiliated programs as being very interesting and well-run. These programs benefit sophomores as well as juniors and seniors. Theyre very vague about the program but immediately asked for money which is a bit scary /: Samrina, WITH THE COMPETION FOR A SPOT IN A GOOD COLLEGE OR UNIVERSITY SO COMPETITIVE, YOU CAN USE THIS PROGRAM AS A SPRINGBOARD TO MAKING IT AN EASIER ROAD It was the best week of my life. Thank you!! Generally it means you scored well, but isnt as big an honor as they make it seem. Then I seen the price of the program and I couldnt help but think how in the world will I be able to come up with all that money!? I agree with the term solicitation. You can find other excellent opportunities that cost less. I just received an invitation to the NYLF medical program. Yes, we did apply for a scholarship based on her grades and our financial needs. Good Morning, a student of mine (10th grader) brought me his letter of acceptance to the National Youth Leadership Forum: Engineering, questioning if it would be worth it. He also read the brochure carefully, studied the various activities outlined, handed the paperwork back to me, nodded, and said, Yeah, Id pay money for that. Is it worthwhile for that age group? I know that my son has been interested in the security and intelligence field for pretty much his whole life, and I know that he now has the mental maturity to ask pertinent questions, and to network not only with his peers, but with the adults at the seminar. 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