And these will be like grandchildren to youeven those that you minister to wont be this generation; their children will be. Russian Red Army by Bob Jones. Bob Jones started having prophetic experiences at the age of 7 years old, and continued to have experiences his entire life. The 1980's began to reveal the Prophets of God; people that get the inspired word. Two nights! All this to say that I Love you very much, Ernie, and Im behind you 100% in this matter. Sincerely yours, (signed) Alan Needham (Pastor). My wife, who never missed a service and has a better memory than I do, verifies this fact. I have only listened to a few of the tapes from Kansas City Fellowship, and read only a few of their publications. And you can take a little of that fire and impart it wherever it is needed. Is this Jesus the same one in the Bible? Bob Jones claims that when he was nine years old living in Arkansas, an angel carrying a great trumpet came riding down from the sky on a white horse and stopped before him in the middle of a dirt road. He was not under submission to the pastor. And, Jones other ludicrous prophecies are beyond ridiculous and its incomprehensible that ANYONE in their right mind would follow these two men. So we are too immature to have prophets be right all the time? Help me. And the voice spoke to me and says, I cant help you, Bob, until you forgive them. Add to thatthe funeral was held in my church; I preached the funeral message and gave an invitation to accept Christ, and several young people took Jesus as their Savior that day. (Testimony Letter 11), The church member:At the maximum, six people of all ages died over a 2-year period, from March 29, 1976, to January 12, 1978: a. Dennis Wagner, age 19;. Of course both angels and fire have an important part in the revivalism taking place in the church today. Goal:Distributed by Way of Life Literature Inc., the Fundamental Baptist Information Service is an e-mail posting for Bible-believing Christians. Mike Bickle dates the very beginning of their Movement to the first supernatural experiences of Bob Jones. Yes, Im going to write and spread His love because I love Him and His people, and my heart is to live for Him. Other pastors in Kansas City acknowledged that; The exaggerated stories of rejection gain sympathy for Bob and fit into their theology of prophets being people who have had to deal with rejection all their lives. For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye shall take it patiently? (1 Peter 2:20). Paul Cain, Mike Bickle (and others) are friends to his ministry and were involved in the prophetic movement that entered the Vineyard church under John Wimber and are now part of the new apostolic reformation of Peter Wagner who was friends with Wimber. Harry Dematrillia -- A strongly gifted prophet who ministered often with Bob Jones in the early days of the Kansas City . And a lot of people have had a lot of good laughs about it. He said, Oh, were collecting those who are foreknown and predestinated for the end-times, for you see, theyll be the best of all the seed thats ever been. . Recing Bob Jones false prophecies was not Mikes first major error. Lord is there anything we can do? . 4. Surely if Jones is one of the churches new generals we will be led to defeat. And it would begin a wave at Washington, and it would come on down and go through the whole United States ". Incredible as it seems, Mike Bickle was, however, soon won over by supernatural signs, to believe that Bob Jones must be from God. Its not have the faith in God, it is to have the faith of God. The following is a prophecy of Bob Jones of the great coming revival, recorded shortly before his death. But everything he says in this video is twisted and wrong. - "About" David Cloud Christians do not bow before anything but God. Bob Jones, I must now say, in light of all of the over emphasized, untested signs, just assuming theyre from God, that Bob disqualified himself years ago, never submitting to correction, from the very beginning, even before he met Mike Bickle. Wolves in sheep's clothing! (2 Peter 1:16-21) Once you buy the package of believing these people have a special place with and word from God, you are their prey and will be brought under their witchcraft and control (2 Peter 2:19). - www.wayoflife.org. And a ball of fire danced all over that basement, and didnt hurt me. Could Bob Jones prophecy be starting to unfold as the Kansas City Chiefs win Super Bowl, and all the while, revival is breaking out amongst the college students at Asbury College? We pray God will use it to open the eyes of many and to help keep many of His children out of such deception. A former charismatic, said, The book is excellent and I have no doubt whatever that the Lord is going to use it in a mighty way. Will and Judy Pliska, ages 31 and perhaps 29; died in the fall of 1976. , December 2004). Mike Bickle a close friend of Jones relates the degree of supernatural visitation Bob Jones received nightly:You know, Im going to tell you something about Bob. And were looking through the seeds and thisll be your grandkids. .until he met Mike Bickle. Bob Jones first became known by being part of the Kansas city prophets back in the 1980s. . Do You Know These 14 Hebrew Names of God? Bob Jones was told that the general level of prophetic revelation in the church was about 65% accurate at this time. Really a profit submitting to a preacher? This is the second day that Bob Jones has been here to impart. And two days later they were both dead. That is a lie. The prophesy was that my church at that time would fail. Dr. Bob Jones Jr., the chancellor and board chairman of Bob Jones University in Greenville, S.C., who in the late 1970's forfeited his college's Federal tax exemption rather than permit . You have God's Word and Holy Ghost - from Genesis to Revelation - which is "the MORE sure word of prophecy." Heres another good one.. This brings me to one further point at this time. February of every year (to us) is a prophetic type of the Second Passover, a parallel to the Hebrew second month. In CHRIST (signed), (Dr.) George (Westlake Jr. Senior Pastor), http://www.mikebickle.org.edgesuite.net/MikeBickleVOD/2009/20090917A-T The_Early_Days_Cairo_Egypt_and_the Solemn_Assembly_IPH01.pdf. , Jan. 31, 2002). Because the Lord told Bob that he was to come to help establish clarity and faith in the hearts of those young people so that when they believed, then there would be a whole new ability for the Lord to work in our midstwhen we believed the things about this movement. your children will be moving into the ministries of Perfection . Wait till you see the next two years! got so depressed because young ones were dying. , April 11, 2009). Mikes whole ministry was riddled with false directives, false prophecy and revelation, and false doctrine. And I warned them, but they really got upset the last time I warned them. Understanding The Holy Of Holies Inside The Temple. . Bob Jones experienced correction., not rejection. As told above, Bob out right lied about his warning prophecies, at Berean Baptist Church, and actually recounted two different stories, both lies, as the pastor of the church and another member, recounted what actually transpired. reported that Paul Crouch of Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN) had paid $425,000 in 1998 to Enoch Lonnie Ford, an employee at TBN, to keep him from going public with his allegation that they had a homosexual encounter. Help me. And the voice spoke to me and says, I cant help you, Bob, until you forgive them. b. Thousands reached daily, worldwide 24/7/365. It is devils according to his own experience? (Mike Bickle with Bob Jones,Visions and Revelations, transcript, series of five tapes from the fall of 1988.). The 1980s reveal the prophets of God. I only saw til 2060 and the church was still here and it wasnt defeated by any means. I did caution Mike Bickle about the strangeness of the prophet at the time. Bob Jones and his bride, Mary Gaston Stollenwerck Jones, June 1908Jones's family was devoutly Christian . Bob Jones, John Paul Jackson, and Paul Cain, who were known as the 'Kansas City Prophets,' were all buried on 2/22 This win is on a palindrome day of 02/02/2020 (hasn't happened for 909 years). We say, Lord, we dont throw out prophecy. Though Bickle was, at first, skeptical of Jones-and even wondered if Jones was a false prophet-he became convinced that Jones was a true prophet when Jones accurately predicted a snowfall on March 21, 1983, after several weeks of unseasonably warm . 7. The prophesy was that my church at that time would fail. The state of the prophetic is in serious disrepair, and I just cant imagine any possible revival coming in the midst of this, esp. http://www.banner.org.uk/kcp/Abberent%20Practises.pdf p.41, Bob and Mikes VersionA FABRICATED STORY CONCERNING BOB JONES p.42 The following story, which is often told by Mike Bickle to give credibility to Bob Jones as a prophet, is a complete fabrication of facts. g.The sad irony is that so many of those same mystical experiences and revelations have no support whatsoever from Scripture, and many defy the scriptural record entirely. 14:3 As a self-proclaimed prophet, with no history with the Body of Christ, no respect for leadership, and no reception to correction, these judgement prophecies were totally out of Biblical order. AGE 15 LATE 30S TOTAL ABANDONMENT TO SIN/ DEMONIC VISIONS AND POSSESSION BJ: From 15 to in my late 30sI tried to find peace in sin and I searched for it in every bar and every fist fight, every gambling game I could get into. (F88, p.3) MB: The story is real in-depth.. .he really got himself into some heavy stuff of sin and just always in Street fights and bar fights and beatin people up and drinkin alcohol, and then some other areas toopretty heavy duty in (F88, p. 4) BJ: . McClendon enjoys the spotlight on Christian television, and he shares pulpits with top leaders in our movement (Lee Grady, Sin in the Camp,. There will bepeople standing against you, and the Lord says, Do not answer them, as the Lord Himself will answer them.*Augustine Acula was defrocked a few years later for homosexual activity, and viewed as a false prophet. OPH ,p. 2) And the reason I get talking about BobBob is so integral in the first 18 months of our history, because the Lord ordained it. was the nephew of this church member. This full maturity is what is called the Manifested Sons of God doctrine that came from the Latter Rain Heresy. I felt a strong uneasiness of the Holy Spirit when Mike first came to town and came by to visit me in my office. There is no detailed information available concerning his spiritual life upon leaving the mental ward. This is disconcerting, considering the demonic influence in his life just prior, and esp. Anyone interested in this subject matter should read Vengeance is Ours. Really you are so out of line you must be on a island, no where in the Word does a profit submit to anyone but God. The memorial program handed my wife and me at Billy's coffin (crafted by prison inmates), said, "Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord that they may rest from their labors, and their works follow them" (Rev. I was inside I didnt have my wires grounded in the basement down there, and I grabbed ahold of the refrigerator, and lightning hit the wires outside, and a great blue flame came in. died March 29, 1976, drowned at Swope Park. I've been looking forward to this episode for a few weeks! He came under a false spirit, and operated out of that spirit, producing a counterfeit move of God! Every sign and wonder thats ever been will be many times in the last days. Bob Jones and his supernatural visions and experiences are foundational to Kansas City Fellowship and their Movement.b.Bobs background includes alcoholism, abandonment to sin, demon possession, drug addiction, and time in a mental institution; from this background he does a sudden 180 degree turn to become a major prophet of God for the last days.c.This man who saw demons regularly and partied with them prior to salvation now begins seeing angels and having out-of-body experiences, etc. The show reported that Tiltons ministry threw thousands of unread prayer requests into the trash even though Tilton claimed to pray over them. Home Secretary Suella Braverman has expressed her concern after police recorded a 'hate incident' at a school after pupils caused 'slight damage' to a copy of the Quran when it fell on the floor . .very distinct from anything Ive ever heard of or seen, or boy, I tell you, it was totally bizarre, and most of those events run over an 18-month period. e. Grandma Wynn, age 89; died January 12, 1978. The book deals extensively with the theological errors of the Pentecostal-charismatic movements (exalting experience over Scripture, emphasis on the miraculous, the continuation of Messianic and apostolic miracles and sign gifts, the baptism of the Holy Spirit, the baptism of fire, tongues speaking, physical healing guaranteed in the atonement, spirit slaying, spirit drunkenness, visions of Jesus, trips to heaven, women preachers, and ecumenism). . The office I humbly have been annoitied for is a Prophet my territory is the "USA" I'm so excited and so young full of Hope and deeply honored to know Jesus and honor his great . According to Bob, God revealed to him, in a vision, that revival would come when the Kansas City Chiefs win the Super Bowl. Visions and Revelations.). If you want to change something, you must believe it enough to speak it. All rights reserved. His estate included an 11,000-square-foot home near Dallas, a condominium in Florida, a yacht, and other assets worth $90 million. We find out who Bob Jones White Talking Horse is and whom the angel of the Lord is. I whole heartedly agree with all gospel action, but signs are not being scrutinized, prophecies and many prophets are not being examined. Anytime God is going to start a fire, he starts it with lightning. The people and pastor grew weary of this continuous and wearisome foretelling of earthquakes and tragedies coming until I, as pastor and shepherd of the sheep, asked Bob Jones to come with me and another pastor to my study to counsel him. I was inside I didnt have my wires grounded in the basement down there, and I grabbed ahold of the refrigerator, and lightning hit the wires outside, and a great blue flame came in. Bob Jones was supposed to have been the BEST prophet on planet earth-seriously, he's like a modern day Father Abraham to these people. Things we do not want copied and distributed freely are items like the Fundamental Baptist Digital Library, print editions of our books, electronic editions of the books that we sell, the videos that we sell, etc. When we first met Paul in the early 1990s his story was one that was quite dramatic. . As stated previously, he died on March 29, many months before the funeral of Will and Judy, not after. And I was on a line where there werent very many and we were walking and when I went beyond this life I went into a cave and I looked out the cave and saw a man down there at the cave entrance and he was white light, but there was a whiter light than that white light holding hands out to me and my first thought was did I die clean, was my robe spotted cause I come out of such deep skin and I was concerned to see if I was clean and there was a man that stood alongside of me I never been able to see his face, hes the paracletos, the Holy Spirit.. he spoke to me and said look now you can see-I looked and my robe was white.The Holy Spirit is walking with Jones but not anyone else? He was back in the ministry within weeks. he said,Because they rejected me many placesand the Lord has shown me many times, and He (God) said this, this group that was yet to come, He said they would never, ever reject me. He said, This is my family till the end. 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